Caligula - Atrocities and Tortures - Revision history

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	It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.		It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.

	As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::~~Senaca~~]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.		As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::Seneca]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.

	==Tortures==		==Tortures==

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	''Others, again, owed their ruin to the emperor's illness of the preceding year and to the death of his sister Drusilla, since, among other things, any one who had entertained or had greeted another, or even had bathed during those days, incurred punishment. ''<ref>Cassius Dio</ref>		''Others, again, owed their ruin to the emperor's illness of the preceding year and to the death of his sister Drusilla, since, among other things, any one who had entertained or had greeted another, or even had bathed during those days, incurred punishment. ''<ref>Cassius Dio</ref>

	As Tiberius descended into melancolia and increasing depravity, how much of his influence rub off on the young Caligula. He must of been aware of the murders under his reign like the story of [[roman::Sextus Marius]] who was charged with incest with his daughter on the pretext of seizing his Spanish gold mines even though they would have been seized in the name of the state. As [[author::Tacitus]] puts it..		As Tiberius descended into melancolia and increasing depravity, how much of his influence rub off on the young Caligula? He must of been aware of the murders under his reign like the story of [[roman::Sextus Marius]] who was charged with incest with his daughter on the pretext of seizing his Spanish gold mines even though they would have been seized in the name of the state. As [[author::Tacitus]] puts it..
	''Was it probable that, when Tiberius with his long experience of affairs was, under the influence of absolute power, wholly perverted and changed, Caius Caesar, who had hardly completed his boyhood, was thoroughly ignorant and bred under the vilest training, would enter on a better course, with [[roman::Macro]] for his guide.'' <ref>The Annals By Tacitus. Book VI</ref>		''Was it probable that, when Tiberius with his long experience of affairs was, under the influence of absolute power, wholly perverted and changed, Caius Caesar, who had hardly completed his boyhood, was thoroughly ignorant and bred under the vilest training, would enter on a better course, with [[roman::Macro]] for his guide.'' <ref>The Annals By Tacitus. Book VI</ref>

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	==Introduction==		==Introduction==

	Discussed below are the Atrocities and Tortures carried out by [[roman::Caligula]]. He was certainly addicted to other people's suffering. It is said that he often tortured people slowly to death to prolong their agony from which de derived some perverse pleasure but also as some experiment to understand or obtain proof of an after life. Could they, he enquired, see [[character::Isis]]. Death was also undertaken for percuniary gain. He spent so lavishly that the treasury was bare and according to Cassius Dio ~~was~~ seize the murdered person estate for himself.		Discussed below are the Atrocities and Tortures carried out by [[roman::Caligula]]. He was certainly addicted to other people's suffering. It is said that he often tortured people slowly to death to prolong their agony from which de derived some perverse pleasure but also as some experiment to understand or obtain proof of an after life. Could they, he enquired, see [[character::Isis]]. Death was also undertaken for percuniary gain. He spent so lavishly that the treasury was bare and according to Cassius Dio would seize the murdered person estate for himself.
	''in reality it was because of their property; for the treasury had become exhausted and he never could have enough''<ref> Roman History		''in reality it was because of their property; for the treasury had become exhausted and he never could have enough''<ref> Roman History
	by Cassius Dio published in Vol. VII of the Loeb Classical Library edition, 1924 Cassius Dio. Book 59 Chapters 1-6</ref>		by Cassius Dio published in Vol. VII of the Loeb Classical Library edition, 1924 Cassius Dio. Book 59 Chapters 1-6</ref>
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	It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.		It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.

	As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::Senaca]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.		As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::Senaca]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.

	==Tortures==		==Tortures==

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	''He was blamed likewise for compelling Macro together with Ennia to take their own lives'' <ref>Cassius Dio </ref>		''He was blamed likewise for compelling Macro together with Ennia to take their own lives'' <ref>Cassius Dio </ref>

	* A consul committed suicide after Caligula broke his [[term::facses]] (wooden rod) when he trumped up a complaint about him on the day they celebrated [[roman::Augustus]]' victory over [[roman::Mark ~~Anthony~~]]		* A consul committed suicide after Caligula broke his [[term::facses]] (wooden rod) when he trumped up a complaint about him on the day they celebrated [[roman::Augustus]]' victory over [[roman::Mark Antony]]
	''These were the reasons, then, why he summarily dismissed these officials, first breaking in pieces their fasces; whereupon one of them took it so much to heart that he killed himself'' <ref>Cassius Dio</ref>		''These were the reasons, then, why he summarily dismissed these officials, first breaking in pieces their fasces; whereupon one of them took it so much to heart that he killed himself'' <ref>Cassius Dio</ref>

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	*King Juba's son, Ptolemy		*King Juba's son, Ptolemy
	*His cousin (which one)		*His cousin (which one)
	''Ptolemy, king Juba's son, his cousin (for he was the grandson of [[roman::Mark Antony]] by his daughter [[roman::Selene]]), and especially Macro himself, and Ennia likewise, by whose assistance he had obtained the empire; all of whom, for their alliance and eminent services, he rewarded with violent deaths'' <ref>Suetonius>/ref>		''Ptolemy, king Juba's son, his cousin (for he was the grandson of [[roman::Mark Antony]] by his daughter [[roman::Selene]]), and especially Macro himself, and Ennia likewise, by whose assistance he had obtained the empire; all of whom, for their alliance and eminent services, he rewarded with violent deaths'' <ref>Suetonius</ref>
	''While the senators were passing these decrees, Gaius sent for Ptolemy, the son of Juba, and on learning that he was wealthy put him to death'' <ref>Cassius Dio </ref>		''While the senators were passing these decrees, Gaius sent for Ptolemy, the son of Juba, and on learning that he was wealthy put him to death'' <ref>Cassius Dio </ref>

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	It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.		It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.

	As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius ~~Dio~~ or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::Senaca]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.		As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::Senaca]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.

	==Tortures==		==Tortures==

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	It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.		It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.

	As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if ~~Suetonius~~ had read ~~Cassius~~ Dio or other authors such as Tacitus, who ~~was a contemporary~~ of Caligula~~'s time~~. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we ~~onlt~~ retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.		As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank and they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Cassius Dio had read Suetonius Dio or other authors such as Tacitus, [[author::Philo]] or [[author::Roman::Senaca]], who were contemporaries of Caligula. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we only retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.

	==Tortures==		==Tortures==

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	It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.		It is not surprising that he met a violent death. Did his atrocities prolong his life and put the ''fear of god(s)'' into those who wished him evil or was he just storing up trouble for the future? He lasted not quite four years and it seems implausible given the violence of his nature that he would live to rule for many years more than he did.

			As to the veracity of the stories we have Suetonius and Cassius Dio to thank they seem to corroborate themselves in the general facts if not all the details. It is difficult to know if Suetonius had read Cassius Dio or other authors such as Tacitus, who was a contemporary of Caligula's time. Unfortunately, just as Tacitus is getting into gear with his history of Caligula there is a gap of ten years as those chapters are lost and we onlt retake up the story in Claudius' reign. Nevertheless, what we hear of Caligula up to that time does not contradict what we read in the other histories.

	==Tortures==		==Tortures==